01/17 - Flowing Friday!

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  1. IcyTundra

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    Lots of squiggly lines...
    too funny
     
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    Was the show broadcast on the east coast? For some reason I watched a lot of it growing up even though it looks like it was from MN. My uncle always had it on tape. :emoji_thinking:
     
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    No, I think they started around the late 80's (88?- ish) on comedy central/comedy channel. They had a serious following. The show was silly - they basically watched old B movies and commented on how bad they were.
     
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    Now people who are nostalgic about the show go watch them do this on tour. It's been 20 years basically of them making fun of old and silly movies.
     
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    I just remember the weirdest movies and the weirdest commentary. And a spaceship :emoji_rocket:. I'll have to find it again and see if it holds up
     
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    This may not be helpful (it could also be wrong in parts!) but I'll try, you probably already know some of this so I apologise. So PRE's are generated when too many requests hit mturk at once (or within a very short space of time). Mturk doesn't like it so it throws an error (PRE) up and says "you're doing this too often, I don't like it, slow down." One specific HIT shouldn't generate more PREs than another HIT. There are no "bad" HITs that make more requests than others. So deleting one HIT and starting from scratch may not be the solution.

    It's also worth pointing out that when you're trying to "grab" a hit using panda crazy you're sending (typically) one request per second to mturk. You'll also be searching the platform for new hits at the same time, probably with hit forker, also set to search once a second. So if you've got two searchers on HF and one HIT in PC you're already sending three requests a second. This quickly adds up with multiple searches and lots of individual HITs in PC. Eventually it equals a lot of requests and then PREs.

    When are you getting all the PREs? Is it when you fire everything up for the day? If so that could just be the impact of you starting a bunch of searches for HITS on Hit Forker and a load of individual HIT searches on PC. That should calm down after a while but ultimately you have to balance how much "stuff" you're throwing at the platform at once.

    Others can probably elaborate and or correct if I'm wrong.
     
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    Weirdly enough my sister and brother-in-law are such HUGE fans that they ended up with the robots and people in their house with pictures, etc. They are BIG fans :)
     
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    They only disappointed me once. And I may be over-boomering here.
    But there was an awful sci-fi movie which was showing a big computer overheating and starting to melt.
    The guys said something fairly inconsequential, when there was clearly only one thing to do.
    Which would have been singing the HAL 9000 computer's slowly running-down 'death song' Daisy... Daaaiiisssy...
    from 2001 A Space Odyssey.
     
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    Thank you @tsusoup ! I mostly know a really scattered amount of stuff about all of this so appreciate your rundown. Very, very much.

    Right now I only use MTS Catcher and don't have multiple pandas running which is why I was confused when I got some PRE's quickly and then nothing on other catches. So was thinking maybe I didn't understand how it works completely.

    I haven't graduated to Panda Crazy but feel like that is probably my next step. (Or HIT Forker - not sure which path to run down next....)

    I get some random PRE's on MTS but seems like more and more lately they come fast. Not the first "fire up" but on random ones, later in the day.

    Again thanks for helping me sort this. Trying to be more effective and understand the best way to navigate everything.
     
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    What's your speed you have it set on?
     
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    Trying to find the pics of the robots in their house.... :)
    Was my brother-in-laws dream (in addition to Star Wars anything and Monty Python)
     
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    Catcher 980
     
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    I don't do mTurk too seriously, but the MTS catcher works quite well for me. I have learned that 3-6 hits at 1000ms delay is the best setting. Might be different for you, or different scripts.
     
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    Finder 3000
     
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    ive been looking at this and for my 2c here. i run MTS almost all day, everyday, i get MAYBE 2 PRE a day at most, and thats even when i run 30 pandas at 1025ms each. i see you run less but there should not be any PRE collision at all. that makes no sense that you even get PRE if you arent even running that many pandas. something sounds wrong
     
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    They eventually put a corrected version out....

    Here's Daisy at normal speed....

     
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    @IcyTundra, what scripts are you running (in full, if you know)?

    If it's really only MTS catcher and finder it shouldn't be causing a PRE with those settings. Also, your internet service provider shouldn't have any effect on this number, a PRE is server side (Amazon). Maybe try upping the delay to 1000ms+ for the catcher. You should be able to find a point where it doesn't give you many, if at all, PREs. I'd try HIT catchter at 1300ms and go down from there until you get errors. Then back off a bit. :emoji_thumbsup:
     
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    @slothbear when the bass drops & I'm writing comments.

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    2001 is still one of the best movies of all time, a lot of groundbreaking camera technique. Still love it.
     
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